BBC:
'Clare's Law' gives 'right to ask' on domestic violence
People in some parts of England and Wales will soon be able to find out from police if their partners have a history of domestic violence.I'm sorry but giving women the right to 'CRB check' potential partners is a terrible scheme and it's also doomed to fail.
The scheme is dubbed Clare's Law, after a woman murdered by a former partner.
The grieving parent who came up with this idea, a person who really shouldn't be involved in policy making because they are unable the think straight on the issue, believes that if this law was in place sooner, it would have saved his daughters life. It wouldn't.
He probably also believes something along the lines of if it saves just one woman from domestic violence it will be worth it, regardless of the potential for illiberal intrusions into peoples private lives. It won't.
Clare Wood, from Salford, Greater Manchester, was murdered in 2009 by a former boyfriend with a violent background.Clare Wood's life would not have been saved by this law because she:
The 36-year-old mother had made several complaints to the police about George Appleton, whom she had met on the internet, before he killed her. He was later found hanged.
made several complaints to the police [...] before he killed herThis law will not save other women from domestic violence because they set themselves up as victims. They stay with abusive partners because: "I love him", "He's not normally like that", "He told me he can change" and a million other reasons.
I don't know what Julia thinks about this law because I haven't talked to her about it. I do know she could supply endless news stories about women who choose to remain with violent and abusive partners.
Every woman has the ability to save themselves from abuse. Advice to all women, and I'm probably stating the obvious here but you wouldn't realise it: If your partner hits you, just once, walk away. Walk away and don't look back.
Don't listen to their justifications, pleas and promises. Don't believe the police can sort your relationship out for you. Take their power away from them by taking yourself out of the equation.
Women who are likely to stay in an abusive relationship once in it, are just as likely to stay with their partners even if they are fully aware of their history.
My emphasis:
T, from Wolverhampton, contacted the BBC to say she wished she had known that her husband had a history of violence.You should have left much sooner anyway. You should have left after the first incident, and even though you allowed yourself to be taken in by his lies, the second incident should have shown him up for the manipulative animal that he is. Knowing his history is not likely to have changed your choices.
"I was badly treated by my husband and beaten often," she said.
"The first time he did it he said he didn't know what he had done and it wasn't in his nature to do this. I accepted this, but was then beaten again and more frequently. If I had known that he had a history of violence then I would have left much sooner."
S, from Lincolnshire, was in an abusive marriage for 12 years but was unaware her husband had been arrested for beating a former girlfriend.No serious relationship can be based on police background checks of your potential partner.
"If I was a single woman, and especially if I had children, I would definitely want to have access to a register that recorded details of abusers before contemplating a serious relationship," she said.
A serious relationship is created through a mutual build up of trust over time. If that trust is betrayed, then leave.
Advice to men: If you find that the girl you are dating has done a police background check on you, any man worth his salt would send her directly to dumpsville.
Most of the people who take advantage of this scheme will turn up nothing. Most men are not abusers. Just like there is not a paedophile on every street corner, domestic abuse has been blown out of all proportion to create yet another scare. This is the worst part. Not only will the scheme be largely redundant, it will be used to probe into peoples private backgrounds by others who have no right to any information other than what they are told by their partners themselves.
Miss Wood's father welcomed the pilot scheme and said that, had it been in place earlier, it would have given his daughter the chance to make an "educated decision" about her relationship with Appleton.No it wouldn't because she:
made several complaints to the police [...] before he killed her"I believe that if my daughter had known of the past of her partner she would have dropped him like a hot brick and scampered out of there," Mr Brown told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
No it wouldn't because she:
made several complaints to the police [...] before he killed herShe had the chance to make 'an educated decision' about her relationship. She didn't take it. She had the opportunity to 'drop him like a hot brick' the first time he laid a hand on her. She didn't do it.
Home Office statistics suggest two women are killed by their current or former partner each week in England and Wales.Figures 'suggest'? What does that mean? The figures are either correct or they're not. Even so, we now have this next piece of intrusive legislation because of a possible 104 deaths per year.
You know what would be a much fairer and more effective way to prevent a lot of these deaths?
Walk away
You take their power with you.
16 Comments:
You'd be better getting a credit report on them first though...
Yup! And very, very few of them are 'Jeckle & Hyde' men too.
Mostly, they are 'Hyde, but he won't do it to me, he luvs me, dun 'e?'...
Ftumch - Nice one!
Julia - Sounds about right. Those women wouldn't walk away no matter what history they were aware of.
However, the way the interviewee expressed his argument in personal terms would leave any challenge open to accusations of insensitivity, to say the least.
This is presumably how the man came to be involved in formulating policy - who, these days, would risk telling him to his face that his daughter would have stayed with an abusive partner even had she known his history? The victim, after all, is sacred.
All the supporters of his campaign had to do was wheel him out in person every time the issue was debated.
This reminds me of the Jane Clough campaign. She was killed by a man who had been released on bail by the courts. Her family are campaigning for, and will likely get, changes to the bail system.
She was a local girl so the story came up in our local paper and I commented on the dangers that these proposals would have if an innocent person was charged with a serious crime.
John Clough himself responded to my comments. I found him to be polite with a well thought out plan and well defined reasons why he thought this proposal was a good thing. Unfortunately this was all based on a belief that those arrested for a crime must surely be guilty, and it's better to imprison an innocent person than let a guilty one go free. Also, the rock solid beleif that such laws would have saved his childs life.
I ignored all the other shouty comments that came in about how I would be the first to demand these changes had it been a loved one of mine etc, etc. and all the usual crap.
Unfortunately, and with all due respect to John and his family, this looks like another grieving parent law that is about to come in.
I have previously tried to talk to these people and change them,but's it's pointless in most cases.Now I follow procedure as I don't want to get sacked when these people end up killing each other.I know I will get howled at for that,just turning into a robot.
As for these checks,call me cynical but two things may happen.Firstly they will be chargeable and a private company will make a fortune out of them.Secondly an innocent person will be wrongly accused and the whole system will be under-mined.Technically if the victim withdraws the allegation then the other person is not guilty.How will those accusations be weeded out?
I imagine some kind of feeling of futility?
Do you think there should be some kind of punishment for people who press then drop charges or is that rife with problems too?
Some bloke lays a hand on my daughter and he'd better get used to receiving nourishment through a nasal tube.
so, really, she knew his most recent history, and how it related to her.
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