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Anti Smoking Vitriol. Its In The Very Fabric Of Society.

The Nursing Times ran an article in May about the call by The chairman of the Royal College of Physicians for a total ban on smoking in cars.

It doesn't take sides, it simply states the position of the RCP. Apparently a ban on somking in cars with children present will help prevent a whole heap of diseases, but the ban needs to be total for road safety reasons.
Prof Britton said even drivers who never had child passengers should get out of their cars before lighting up for reasons of road safety.

He doesn't go as far a suggesting a ban on smoking in homes, not because it would be wrong in so many ways but because it would be unenforceable.

Professor John Britton, chairman of the RCP’s tobacco advisory group, said legislation to ban smoking in the home would be unenforceable so instead views of “what is acceptable” had to be changed to protect the two million children who live in homes which allow smoking.

It doesn't say how he plans to change "views of what is acceptable".

The real nuggets come from the comments section. Here is a few cherry picked examples:

I am amazed this hasn't been put forward before now. It might be seen as a nanny state thing to do but sadly selfish people need to be nannied.

It is a disgusting, horrible and selfish habit and those idiots who continue to smoke should be either criminalised by making them illegal, or refused treatment on the NHS for a self inflicted illness.

Smoking is a disgusting, selfish habit and should be made illegal.


What about other peoples 'rights' to clean air? To walk through a town centre without some selfish idiot walking in front and blowing cigarette smoke in our faces, or to walk through doorways of public buildings without having to subject ourselves to a cloud of disgusting and lethal cigarette smoke every time?

AND I WILL REPEAT TO ALL THOSE BLINDED BY YOUR CLOUDS OF SMOKE, THE TOBACCO TAX DOES NOT FUND THE NHS, YOUR SELFISH IRRESPONSIBLE HABIT COSTS FAR FAR FAR MORE THAN IT WILL EVER PUT IN!!!!!!!!


I'm glad you think banning smoking is discriminatory, it should be. It is about time we did discriminate against the selfish, inconsiderate smokers out there!


how would you like it if I poured my can of Coke over your head as I passed you in the street? Or threw my half eaten sandwich in your face? You wouldn't? Then don't blow your smoke anywhere you please!!!

The informed and rationalised debate has left the building. Anti smoking is no longer a quest for truth, understanding or compromise; it's about hate and intolerance. The anti smokers want everything their own way. Unfortunately society has reached a point where the antis can stamp their feet and make childish demands on our freedom, yet it is we who will be called selfish.

11 Comments:

JJ said...

A country of tolerance no longer.

My thought has always been, that this nasty piece of intolerant legislation has simply given carte blanche to every witless whinger in society. This ban has driven a poisonous wedge between decent honourable people.

Almost overnight the space where friendship once existed...is now filled by a foul cesspit of mindless burning hatred towards fellow citizens who happen to smoke.

It's exstrordinary isn't it...that prior to the ban no one spewed out such acidic bile towards their fellow men and women.

I am Stan said...

Grrrrrr,

Im looking forward to some righteous twat getting into my face about smoking....there will be blood and not mine.

Im smoking more than ever, as inconsiderately as I can in public while guzzling a can of Stella, but no one has yet taken the bait.

Probably because Im a big black,scarfaced ugly fucker...BAH!

Anonymous said...

Spot on Bucko. It is hard to see where they get their evidence from as the bulk of what is quoted is either unreferenced or irrelevant. It is just becoming a cause to hate. Just think what would happen if you combined two deplorable acts - say putting a cat in bin whilst having a fag? On a side note the pattern used to ramp up up the hatred of smokers and smoking has been used before
See here for trhe details: http://athanasiuscm.blogspot.com/2008/11/nazi-anti-smoking-movement.html

It is a long but fascinating read. it would seem that the blueprint for much of the shit that we are subjected to has its roots in this era.

Bucko said...

JJ - Whats it's done is give them credibility. Now they can get away with pretty much anything they come up with. Thats why we cant compromise with them now. They themselves have taken it way beyond that.

Stan - Funny isn't it. Jobsworths never target folk who look like they might bite back.

MIB - I read that article. It's scary in many ways.

Anonymous said...

I don't smoke but feel an irrational desire to punch the morons who make these comments. On the plus side, the depths to which they stoop can be turned against the RCP autocrats. The attempt to denormalise smoking has actually denormalised smokers and created a persecuted minority of 12 million or so people. You might want to make that point to your MP.

Smoking Hot said...

"He doesn't go as far a suggesting a ban on smoking in homes, not because it would be wrong in so many ways but because it would be unenforceable."

Yeah right, they said that about cars too once.

Zealots just go on and on and on.

Dick Puddlecote said...

Yeah, the 'smokers are selfish' line always makes me snigger when coming from a section of society who have been given the world on a stick ... but still want more.

Anonymous said...

The Godber blueprint in action.

1975  
“I imagine that most of us here know full well that our target must be, in the long-term, the elimination of cigarette smoking…… We may not have eliminated cigarette smoking completely by the end of this century, but we ought to have reached a position where a relatively few addicts still use cigarettes, but only in private at most in the company of consenting adults.”  
 
“First, I think we must ask ourselves whether our society is one in which the major influences exercised on public opinion are such as would convey the impression that smoking is a dirty, anti-social practice, spoiling the enjoyment of youth and accelerating the onset of the deterioration of age.”  
 
“Need there really be any difficulty about prohibiting smoking in more public places? The nicotine addicts would be petulant for a while, but why should we accord them any right to make the innocent suffer?”
 
http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/tid/nub2aa00/pdf

Sir George Gobder was the UK CMO in the 60's and 70's and strongly advocated this denormalisation shit.

I have written to my MP, no joy. The UK has signed up to and ratified the WHO FCTC. We are in a legally binding international contract to persecute smokers, hence the outright dismissal by Nick Clegg to even consider a repeal.

Anonymous said...

History tends to be cyclical but such is the sheer wealth and power of the anti-smoking zealots that I do sometimes wonder if we will ever see a day when the Ban is seen for what it is, a hate-filled piece of legislation that legitimises hatred, discrimination and encourages, well, mental illness, and that in years to come it will be marvelled at in the same way as we now find the Church's refusal to accept that the Earth isn't the centre of the Universe?

Is it too much to hope that the future will be an enlightened place where global warming and smoking bans are seen as the results of vested interests and neurotic minds and these lunatics are left to fester in their own bile and mental disease?

JuliaM said...

"I don't smoke but feel an irrational desire to punch the morons who make these comments."

Ditto!

And if Sir George Godber's vision ever does come true, how is the government supposed to replace the lost revenue?

Corrugated Soundbite said...

Ah, Bucko. Just the one I wanted to see.

Have you visited our man Tristan lately?

We're all "right wing extremists" now. Just for wanting to be left alone.